￼ ￼ Dogecoin surges to dizzying heights amid TikTok hype Oliver Knight July 9, 2020, 6:27 am Dogecoin, a longstanding staple of the cryptocurrency ecosystem, has been struck by a remarkably unexpected rally over the past 48-hours, with it now trading 82% higher against Bitcoin than it was two days ago. The meme-friendly digital asset, which was created as a joke in 2013, has emerged as a target for millions of TikTok users that claim it will rally all the way to $1. The #DOGE hashtag now has millions of posts on both TikTok and Twitter, with cryptocurrency exchanges responding by listing both futures and perpetual swap contracts of the cryptocurrency. This morning Binance revealed that as of tomorrow customers can trade Doge/USDT with up to 50x leverage. Bitfinex, meanwhile, announced that it will list MDOGE with a conversion rate of one million as it attempts to capitalise on the recent wave of hype. ￼ While a coin like Doge pumping unsustainably may seem like fun, investors should be wary about using leveraged products as it massively increases the risk of liquidation. To be clear, this is not financial advice but retail investors should be cautious about buying into an asset that has already made substantial gains on the back of a viral social media post, especially when Doge has been the recipient of a number of pump and dumps over the past two years. Looking at Dogecoin’s chart, the current level of 50 sats has been a historical point of support and resistance dating all the way back to 2015, which means price may be halted here unless another wave of volume comes in. For more news, guides and cryptocurrency analysis, click here. Update privacy choices
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Dogecoin has real potential. Correct me if anything I have said is wrong, please.
![img](p0m3cwfn1x831 " There are many misconceptions about Doge that I want to clear up. Although it started as a joke using the same blockchain technology as bitcoin, just with high supply and infinite potential supply, it was given a fixed inflation rate of 5 billion coins annually. Over time the actual percentage gets smaller as the total gets bigger. This means that supply flow can be overwhelmed with high enough demand relatively easily. With the supply in circulation being around 120 Billion currently, and market cap being around 400 Million, if we saw an increase to just 1-2 billion Doge would be worth 1-2 pennies each. A 120 billion market cap would make Doge 1$. If you look at the historical price movements of Dogecoin, you can see that from its lowest point to highest point is almost a 23,000% increase. The coin has never been hacked, and is going through massive accumulation just like bitcoin. In my opinion, Dogecoin is a sleeper of value, especially with the fact that the incentive to mine dogecoin blocks will never go away; unlike bitcoin. (The potential price movements in the chart are highly speculative. Note the similarities in pattern, as I have color coded ups and downs. The next ATH could take us in to the .1-.4 range, if the percentages and time ranges stay the same. I suspect it won't be exact, but it could be similar indeed.) ")
Bitcoin mining is a bit more than just number crunching
The charming cryptocurrency and the many ideas that surface in the minds of the observers typically surround couple of apparent concerns - how does it enter being and what about its flow? The response, nevertheless, is uncomplicated. Bitcoins need to be mined, in order to make the cryptocurrency exist in the Bitcoin market. The mystical developer of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, imagined a method to exchange the important cryptocurrencies online, by getting rid of the need for any central organization. For Bitcoins, there's an alternative method to hold the essential records of the deal history of the whole blood circulation, and all this is handled through a decentralized way. The journal that helps with the procedure is called the "blockchain". The essence of this journal may need lots of newsprint for appearing frequently at all popular Bitcoin news. Blockchain broadens every minute, existing on the makers associated with the big Bitcoin network. Individuals might question the credibility, even credibility, of these deals and their recordings into Blockchain. This too is nevertheless warranted, through the procedure of Bitcoin mining. Mining allows production of brand-new Bitcoin and assembling deals to the journal. Mining basically involves fixing of complex mathematical estimations, and the miners utilize enormous computing power to resolve it. The private or 'swimming pool' that resolves the puzzle, positions the subsequent block and wins a benefit too. And, how mining can prevent double-spending? Practically every 10 minutes, impressive deals are mined into a block. So, any disparity or illegitimacy is entirely dismissed. For Bitcoins, mining is not mentioned in a conventional sense of the term. Bitcoins are mined by using cryptography. A hash function described as "double SHA-256" is used. However how tough is it to mine Bitcoins? This can be another inquiry. This depends a lot on the effort and computing power being used into mining. Another element worth pointing out is the software application procedure. For each 2016 blocks, problem involved in mining of Bitcoins is changed by itself just to keep the procedure. In turn, the rate of block generation is kept constant. A Bitcoin problem chart is an ideal procedure to show the mining trouble in time. The trouble level changes itself to increase or down in a straight proportional way, depending upon the computational power, whether it's being sustained or removed. As the variety of miners increase, portion of revenues been worthy of by the individuals decrease, everybody winds up with smaller sized pieces of the revenues. Having private economies and neighborhoods, cryptocurrencies like Dogecoin, Namecoin or Peercoin, are called Altcoins. You can easily track your different cryptocurrency by using reputable portfolio trackers.These are options to Bitcoin. Practically like Bitcoins, these 'cousins' do have a substantial fan-following and enthusiasts who are eager to take a deep plunge into the big ocean and start to mine it. Algorithms used for Altcoin mining are either SHA-256 or Scrypt. Numerous other ingenious algorithms exist too. Alleviate, price and simpleness can render it possible to mine Altcoins on a PC or by using unique mining software application. Altcoins are a bit 'down to earth' compared to Bitcoins, yet changing them into huge dollars is a little challenging. Cryptocurrency enthusiasts can simply hope, if a few of them might witness the comparable huge popularity!
This is Why Dogecoin is Better than 'Altcoins-Degenerators'
While large majority of the altcoins are being on a straight-down path, a coin that was made as a joke and seemingly has had no recent major development is proving store of value (SoV) properties. Popular crypto researcher and analyst Willy Woo posted both on Twitter and website his opinion on the type of altcoins of interest to investors. Regardless how nuanced altcoins are, manifesting as protocol coins, utility tokens, security tokens, and non-fungible tokens, the only two types that are of relevance to an investor are: Oscillators and Degenerators. To show both types, Woo provided a chart of the market. https://preview.redd.it/xr1pb1w88nx31.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=513e3c9af7ddf8ffa414758221e5789cab84eb59 However, the great majority of all altcoins are Degenerators, says Woo. “Their price chart has a measurable half-life, like radioactive decay. Plotted on a log chart, it's a straight line down,” he explains, providing Namecoin (NMC) as an example. On the other hand, there are only a few Oscillators, and one of the most surprising examples is Dogecoin (DOGE), initially made as a joke and now ranked 30th by its market capitalization (USD 326 million). How is a coin an Oscillator, I hear you ask. Woo says that Oscillators are proving SoV properties. “To qualify,” he adds, the coins “need to keep up with Bitcoin (BTC)/USD gains.” In order to find oscillators, plot a coin’s BTC value. It must oscillate around a horizontal line, for at least one full bull-bear cycle, which is around four years, but more than one cycle is better, the analyst explains. One doesn’t need innovation and cutting edge technology to build value in their coin, says Woo. “These are monetary instruments, they build value with economic network effects.” He finds Dogecoin as an example of an altcoin with no particularly significant technology or smart contracts, nor has it solved some of the major issues in the crypto and blockchain world. If we look at its GitHub, we see the last activity recorded 5 months ago. However, the researcher believes that Dogecoin achieved SoV due to the Lindy Effect. The Lindy Effect is one of the more interesting things you’ll come across in your daily life wherever you turn. It basically means that future life expectancy of a non-perishable thing is proportional to its current age – its mortality rate decreases with time. So, if a technology is six years old, like DOGE is, it’s expected to last six more. Next year it’ll be seven years old, and if the effect persists, its life expectancy will be that much longer. “An oscillator can always breakdown. Due to Lindy Effect, it becomes harder the longer it stays an oscillator,” Woo writes. Furthermore, DOGE is listed on nearly all exchanges, it's supported by most wallets, and it has a liquid market, says Woo. Another example Woo gave is DCBTC, which he finds to be at a critical stage as it’s about to complete its first full bull-bear cycle. “It needs to emerge cleanly holding its horizontal oscillation against BTC. Only then can we say it's achieving SoV properties.” On a question if all this means that all stablecoins are Degens, which would lead to a conclusion that all Fiat currencies are too, Woo replied with “Correct.”
Burstcoin: A Diamond In The Rough That Will Prosper Long Term
https://preview.redd.it/jbn4w5oaut021.png?width=1380&format=png&auto=webp&s=05048e92518ac6c2ba88cb0a4a91165528671104 http://genesisblocknews.com/burstcoin-a-diamond-in-the-rough-that-will-prosper-long-term/ There are currently 2,074 cryptocurrencies on CoinMarketCap, most of which are copycats, driven by pure ICO greed, or just shitcoins in general. As the napalm of SEC enforcement and investor capitulation burns through the crypto space, most of the cryptocurrencies listed on CoinMarketCap will probably be decimated and relegated to the history books. Burstcoin (BURST) sits way back at #223 on CoinMarketCap, with its market cap near USD 10 million, but it is a diamond in the rough. BURST is truly decentralized, launched with zero ICO nor premine, and uses the unique Proof of Capacity mining algorithm. Therefore, GenesisBlockNews believes BURST will easily survive this ongoing crypto armageddon, and will prosper long term. I first wrote about BURST for BitcoinNews, when I interviewed Burstcoin developer Daniel Jones. You can listen to the interview with Daniel about Burstcoin at this link. At that time BURST was at #248 on CoinMarketCap, and that was during the stable period before this nuclear bear market started. BURST has crawled 25 places up the CoinMarketCap ranks since then, during the worst crypto market conditions in recent memory, showing its grit. This is due to the merits of BURST. BURST uses Proof of Capacity mining, where mining is done with hard drives instead of raw computational power like with Proof of Work. A 1-time hashing cycle is done, which is called plotting, which fills the hard drive with a tremendous amount of cryptographic hashes and proves the capacity of the hard drive. This plot is read during mining to find the correct cryptographic hash, and whoever finds the answer the quickest in their plot gets the block reward. More hard drive space equals more answers, and therefore more hard drive space increases BURST profits when mining. On average every 4 minutes a block is found, and the block reward is around 750 and decreasing at the rate of 5% per month. The block reward started at 10,000 when BURST launched in 2014, and when mining is done there will be 2.158 billion BURST total. Proof of Capacity mining uses practically no electricity, making BURST one of the only profitable cryptocurrencies to mine on personal computers. Even if BURST mining only earns about 1-2 BURST per day on a 1 TB hard drive, that is pure profit, versus mining Bitcoin, Litecoin, or Dogecoin, where energy expenses far outweigh mining revenue when using a personal computer. Since any computer can mine BURST, as long as it has hard drive space, the BURST network is highly decentralized. Currently there is an astonishing 300,000 TB, which is 300 PB, securing the BURST network. That’s equivalent to the hard drive space of hundreds of thousands of personal computers. Beyond the merits of being decentralized, having a unique algorithm, being profitable for mining and easy to use on personal computers, and having zero premine, the BURST development community is comprised of some of the best blockchain developers. BURST has direct on-chain storage via Cloudburst, which has the ability to immutably store files. As long as BURST exists, files stored with Cloudburst will never be deleted. BURST has built-in smart contract technology that can be used to launch any sort of dApp that one can imagine, and an exchange integrated into the BURST wallet to launch and trade crypto assets. Also, BURST seems to have solved the cryptocurrency scalability problem with The Dymaxion, which is layers of tangle-based Lightning Networks. This allows for infinite transactions at zero fees, while using practically zero energy. GenesisBlockNews believes BURST will emerge as a survivor no matter how many cryptocurrencies crash and burn during this nuclear bear market. Due to its merits and attributes, BURST is in a strong position to become a major cryptocurrency in the long term, and seems to be ridiculously under priced at the current value of half a cent per BURST.
Market Analysis: Bitcoin (BTC) Drops Below Critical $3,900 Level, All Major Cryptocurrencies Down More Than 10%, Ethereum (ETH), Bitcoin Cash (BCH), Litecoin (LTC), EOS, Cardano (ADA), IOTA, and Monero (XMR) Down 15 Percent
https://preview.redd.it/jvwd96r80n921.png?width=690&format=png&auto=webp&s=8081d2134bc187cfb38cc005ae811e0d8cd5756f https://cryptoiq.co/market-analysis-bitcoin-btc-drops-below-critical-3900-level-all-major-cryptocurrencies-down-more-than-10-ethereum-eth-bitcoin-cash-bch-litecoin-ltc-eos-cardano-ada-iota-and-monero/ Bitcoin (BTC) has dropped $430 (11 percent) to $3,590, placing it well below the critical $3,900 level. $3,900 has been the level to watch since that was the price of Bitcoin when the December futures contract expired on CME and is likely the level where CME Bitcoin futures traders took out their positions for the month. Bitcoin (BTC) has faced stiff resistance at the $3,900 level multiple times this month but managed to go above it the past few days after a short squeeze, which was likely caused by Bitfinex temporarily closing down for server migration. Now, however, Bitcoin (BTC) is back below this key level. This suggests that CME Bitcoin futures traders largely went short for January. A past Crypto.IQ article details how CME Bitcoin futures expiration dates have a strong connection to Bitcoin’s price behavior. Image courtesy Bitcoinwisdom.com. Top is Bitcoin price in USD on Bitstamp, bottom is volume in Bitcoins. White line is $3,900 level. Although this is the biggest Bitcoin (BTC) price plunge yet of 2019, several other major cryptocurrencies are doing worse and are down more than 15 percent including Ethereum (ETH), Bitcoin Cash (BCH), Litecoin (LTC), Cardano (ADA), IOTA, EOS, and Monero (XMR). This breaks a month-long rally for Ethereum (ETH), Tron (TRX), and Litecoin (LTC), which saw gains of 90 percent, 165 percent, and 75 percent respectively before today’s price drop. Ethereum (ETH) had been rallying on speculation regarding the Constantinople hard fork, coming less than a week from now, since the fork will lower the Ethereum inflation rate by slashing block rewards from three ETH to two ETH. There will also be several new features implemented such as better developer tools and lower transaction fees. The slashing of block rewards and the decision to implement ProgPoW which makes ASICs far less efficient may cause a battle between Ethereum miners and developers. Crypto.IQ speculated that the Ethereum (ETH) Constantinople fork could result in similar tension to the Bitcoin Cash (BCH) fork in November 2018. If this prediction is accurate, a crash in Ethereum’s (ETH) price may ensue. Perhaps the amplified Ethereum (ETH) price drop overnight is due to uncertainty about what will happen when the Constantinople fork launches in less than a week. Notably, Ripple (XRP) has now taken the number two spot on CoinMarketCap since Ripple (XRP) is “only” down 10 percent today while Ethereum (ETH) is down 15 percent. Dogecoin (DOGE) has shown resilience today and is only down seven percent. It has been observed that Dogecoin (DOGE) is less severely impacted by broad price drops in the crypto-space. This is possibly due to Dogecoin (DOGE) having a strong community and simultaneously not being a common choice for speculators. Many more cryptocurrencies than those mentioned in this analysis are down 10 percent or more, and $15.5 billion (11.2 percent) was slashed from the total crypto market cap overnight. Currently, the total crypto market cap is $123 billion, which is still well above the bear market low of $100 billion that we saw during mid-December 2018 when Bitcoin (BTC) hit $3,120 on Bitstamp. It is too soon to say a bottom is in for the crypto market, and if short sellers on CME really are in control this month, as data suggests, then it is possible Bitcoin (BTC) will decline further this month. A re-testing of bear market lows near $3,100 is not out of the question.
Top Trading Cryptocurrency Pairs of 2018: Changelly Analytics
The year 2018 was not as fortunate for the cryptocurrency market as 2017. On the one hand, due to the market downfall, dozens of cryptocurrencies lost in value. On the other – this crypto winter helped to crystallize more strict rules towards industry regulations, and also triggered to leave those market players who are not ready to interact with the emerging realities. Changelly formed the ratings of the top-10 most popular crypto trading pairs along with the most sold cryptocurrencies and most bought cryptos of 2018. You are welcome to read this overview to find out what was this year like for the exchange service and its users. Hopefully, this overview will help you to make some useful conclusions or even to forecast your further behavior in the crypto field.
Top-10 Cryptocurrency Trading Pairs of 2018
Just a small reminder: one of the key concepts of the cryptocurrency market is a Crypto Trading Pair. It is formed when you decide to exchange one crypto asset for another. Below are top-10 crypto trading pairs in 2018 according to Changelly crypto exchange service: https://preview.redd.it/dgqhaf6lz7r21.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ec885e91d3b36ce44c994e45a202df54af361df As you can see from the infographic, the first two places are shared between the BTC-ETH and ETH-BTC crypto trading pairs with the total exchange volume of 24.7% and 20.5% respectively. In the cryptocurrency market, all trading pairs usually contain these headliner currencies. This is explained by the fact that the crypto market participants keep their savings in BTC or ETH. Accordingly, when a person decides to buy cryptocurrency, which seems the most promising, he or she exchanges Bitcoin or Ethereum for the destination crypto, let’s say ABC. Thus, a crypto trading pair BTC-ABC or ETH-ABC is formed. Another crypto project which turned to be the rookie of the year is XRP. Crypto trading pair BTC-XRP takes the third place in Changelly rating. Also, XRP is still on the 3rd position in the cryptocurrency market rank. XRP started 2018 at the mark of ~USD 3.00, and during the year the rate was waving between USD 0.2 and USD 1.00. After the winter’s cryptocurrency market boom the next biggest hype around XRP peaked in autumn 2018 when the XRP market cap increased twice from US$11 billion to US$22 billion. However, there are more crypto assets worth paying attention to. Firstly, it’s the currencies which appeared as a result of a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain such as Litecoin. The virtual asset appeared as a result of BTC blockchain split in October 2011. However, the trading pair LTC-BTC takes the fourth stage in crypto pair rating and points the fact that in 2018 a vast amount of LTC holders preferred to exchange their LTC savings back to BTC. The other trendy crypto of the last year is DogeCoin. The fifth position in the rating takes BTC-DOGE trading pair, which shows the opposite situation if to compare with LTC-BTC trading pair. So, which factors motivated hundreds of crypto enthusiasts to exchange their BTCs in favor of the Shiba Inu coin? The first price spike occurred on the edge of 2017 and 2018 which was entirely predictable in the context of crypto hype momentum. The coin’s price reached $0.017 in comparison to $0.001 in November 2017. The second spike happened on the edge of the August and September 2018, when the Dogecoin raised from its low of $0.0025 to almost $0.05. The below-mentioned factors became the moving force for DOGE price and value significant increase:
The appearance of DOGE on the Yahoo Finance platform
https://preview.redd.it/c1ql74gqz7r21.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=24de3f9f40c44ca6ef9ec193b39b971861fb8339 Despite all the ups and downs of the market along the previous year, the pioneer cryptos didn’t change. Such giants like Bitcoin and Ethereum formed the entire industry in its roots, so along 2018 BTC and ETH were keeping the leading positions as the most sold and bought assets on the crypto market. The fourth position goes to Monero or XMR with a total selling volume of 7.1%. As you probably know, Monero distinctive feature is total anonymity. On the one hand, this is the superpower of cryptocurrency which has been moving the blockchain industry forward from the very beginning. On the other hand, the time has shown that the abuse of anonymity became a disruptive power, following increased incidents of using Monero for money laundering. Thus, the decision to eliminate Monero from Changelly was motivated primarily by security reasons. As you can see from the diagram, Monero takes the 4th position in the top-10 most sold cryptos on Changelly even though the asset was switched off from the service in autumn 2018. The last but not the least cryptocurrency in Top-10 most sold cryptocurrencies rating is USDT. The first stablecoin pegged to USD fiat currency caused quite a stir along 2018. A sharp drop in price occurred in the middle of October 2018. Anonymous attackers provoked the accident to increase the price of other cryptocurrencies.
Top-10 Most Bought Cryptocurrencies in 2018
There’s an interesting observation if to compare diagrams with the most sold and most bought crypto assets of 2018. In both cases, BTC and ETH took the 1st and the 2nd places respectively. However, along 2018 the trend to sell Bitcoin contrasted with the trend to buy Ethereum. https://preview.redd.it/7qyggmq008r21.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=35dd0dc46e6be226c652d4350c3f5733709a5ebd The total value of sold BTC is 42.8% against 16.6% of sold ETH, while the chart of the most bought cryptocurrencies shows only 34.5% of BTC against 24.3% of ETH. There is another prominent altcoin we haven’t mentioned yet. Bitcoin blockchain split made much noise back in 2017. As a result, the new cryptocurrency BCH was born. The hard fork took effect on 1 August 2017. In November 2018 Bitcoin Cash was hard forked again and split into Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV. The confrontation of two communities surrounded the occasion. Following the network split, BCH market cap dropped dramatically. However, starting with the middle of December 2018, the market volume was partly compensated. The fourth place in the most bought cryptocurrency rating takes Litecoin. Despite the descending LTC price trend along 2018, 8% of Changelly users took their chance on Litecoin. And as we can see now investment in LTC back in 2018 paid off at the beginning of 2019. As the Litecoin price increased almost three times from the beginning of the year.
To sum it up, let’s take a look at all the graphics once again. What do we see?
Even though the cryptocurrency market is quite volatile the pioneer cryptos take the lead. The statistics show that Bitcoin, Ethereum, and XRP take the 1st, the 2nd, and the 3rd places respectively on Changelly.com as well as on Coinmarcketcap;
Besides BTC and ETH, the most bought cryptocurrencies along 2018 were BCH and LTC;
The statistics also show that high-profile events frequently form the crypto market cap, whether it’s a hard fork (like in case with BCH) or a stablecoin release (like the USDT release). There is no smoke without fire;
At the same time such cases like the one with Litecoin clearly illustrates that even when its long bearish trend for a coin, the price reversal can happen any moment;
Moreover, following the research, we can see that there are a lot of long-standing cryptocurrencies that take place in the top-10 rating. No matter the hype, such factors like the technology behind the crypto, and the time of cryptocurrency existence can make it worth investing.
Hello Shibes, My name is Dogemanstar. Under a different pseudonym I frequented /Bitcoin since the end of 2011, I have ridden the crazy Bitcoin rollercoaster and I have made both profits and losses, but overall I ended up in the green. I cashed out about half and i invested the other half into different cryptos. To this day I have held XPM, MEC, LTC, WDC, PPC and various what I called wildcard cryptos. I say "to this day" because I have liquidated my entire portfolio and invested into the single cryptocurrency which I believe has a sustainable future : Dogecoin. The world around us is changing, the days we went to record stores to buy our music are gone. The days of taping songs from radio stations were not even experienced by some of us. Now (depending on your preference) we either have the Piratebay, Amazon or iTunes. Blockbuster is gone, buying or renting dvd's in physical stores is something of the past. Now we have Netflix (or, again, The Piratebay). 80 percent of my friends don't even have a TV subscription service anymore. You can order food online, you can buy clothes, with a single click in the digital world you can influence the physical world to make it work for you. It was only a matter of time before people could choose what kind of payment system they wanted to use. In comes crypto. I have held this belief since late 2011 and that is why I invested into this crazy world of "magic internet money" As I said, I was into Bitcoin since the somewhat early days. At the moment I don't hold a single Bitcoin, I'll explain later. After I was 'done' with Bitcoin, I have always had three criteria which I applied before I invested into a specific currency:
As for trasfer speed in my opnion it was necessary to have fast confirmation times because what good is a currency if transactions are slow? Imagine paying for groceries using pennies, it annoys both you, the merchant and the people in line. Speed is key, that is one of the reasons credit cards are used (beside other things of course) for a digital currency transaction speeds are essential for "real world" applications. Adoption was tricky, at the moment the use of crypto (and even Bitcoin) is just starting. It is being brought to the light, out of the dungeons of the Internet. So I hadn't much to go on except market cap, that is why I invested in the coins with the highest market cap as I felt it was some indication of preference or future adoption. Community What good is a currency which isn't backed by it's users? Take for example the Zimbabwean dollar, a currency with unprecedented inflation rates. US Dollar usage was widespread in Zimbabwe, even though the government outlawed it. The Zimbabwean dollar was abandoned because nobody used it, instead the population turned to foreign widely accepted and (generally considered) stable currencies, US Dollars, Pounds and Euro's. After the government realized nobody cared for the ban on using Foreign currency they allowed it's use. Point being is that the success and implementation of a currency can be imposed by a government, but it can be ignored by it's people and it works both ways. If the public decides it will use crypto as legal tender, not a single government can do anything about it. So I searched, joined forums, chatted on IRC for hours on end with both developers and users of different crypto currencies. All had their fair share of believers, users and good developers. Overall I thought it was awesome just to be at the birth of something truly exciting. There was one thing lacking though, true enthusiasm. I got the feeling that between the lines all everyone really cared for was monetary profit, a way to sit and hold and watch their investment grow. I admit, I am no white knight, I daytraded, I hoarded and had sleepless nights watching the charts and I made profits but I realized this is not the point of crypto. The Wall Street-esque feel of Bitcoin nowadays turned me away from it, industrial sized miners dominating the pool, pumping and dumping etcetera the whole thing just feels clinical to me. I missed the excitement surrounding Bitcoin it it's early days. Then I found Dogecoin. I found something that ticked all the right boxes, it's fast, it has good adoption (ATM's being developed 6 weeks after the coins inception, unprecedented) and above all an awesome community. Lurking in this subreddit for the past 6 weeks really opened my eyes, I feel the same enthusiasm as back in the days with Bitcoin, but more. People in here take care of eachother. Of course everyone wants Dogecoin to be a success, and with success comes monetary gains but most in here are in it because it is fun and Dogecoin makes you feel like you are part of something good. So I salute you all. Let us go to the moon, but let us not forget the good nature of (the) Doge and it's community. I'd hate to see potential profit turning us into lone Doges, we run in packs. TL;DR Dogecoin such awesome
[Info] Clearing up missinformation about our inflation rate
I keep seeing posts saying that we have a crazy inflation rate of 5% annually, that Bitcoin/Litecoin have no inflation rate, that inflation rate kills currencys and all this information. I need to straighten some information out. WE DO NOT HAVE A 5% ANNUAL INFLATION RATE: We have a 5 billion coin inflation rate, and that happens to be 5% for the first year once we hit 100 billion. After a year, that 5% will not be 5%. It will be 5/105=4.7%. In the year 2019 we will be at 4%. The reason is because our 5 billion is a constant. It is NOT a compounding 5% like most fiat currencys have. This is NOT the same as compound interest where it will sky rocket out of control. This is a set amount. A constant. Remember that. BITCOIN AND LITECOIN HAVE A HIGHER INFLATION RATE THAN 5% FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS TO COME: I am in search of the chart showing it, but there was a chart talking about the inflation of Bitcoin/Litecoin/Dogeocin. Basically, Bitcoin will have a higher then 30% inflation rate annually next year. That means that, while we are at 5% that year, Bitcoin will be MORE inflationary then Dogecoin. More supply entering the economy. Likewise, Litecoin will not reach the halvings needed to be down to 5% inflation until the year 2019. But wait? Dogecoin wont even be at 5% in that year. We will be at 4%, meaning even after 5 years we will still have a lower inflation rate then Litecoin. Deflationary currencys only become deflationary once they are mined out. Until then, those currencys are and will stay inflationary. INFLATION DOES NOT KILL A CURRENCY: People keep saying that inflation makes a currency useless. I keep seeing posts in /new claiming that having a inflationary currency encourages hoarding or people just selling since it is a useless investment. Not only will the other currencys be MORE inflationary then us come that 600,000th block(the 100 billion 'cap' that got 'changed'), but inflation actually does the opposite. The point of inflation is it makes you THINK you money will be worth less tomorrow then today, so because of that fact it is better to spend your money today to buy that good instead of tomorrow. This makes hoarding a bad idea and essentially encourages trading/buying/selling. That, in turn, strengthens the economy and raises the value of our currency due to having a stronger economy. That is the whole point of inflation - to strengthen a economy by encouraging people to use the money now instead of hoarding it. If our growth exceed 5% annually( or 4.5% ofrwhatever it is for that year), then we just beat the inflation. Why did our growth go up? Because people were not hoarding DUE TO THE INFLATION. As long as we continue to grow our economy, which inflation will help, we will raise in value and beat that inflation. A lot of people keep acting like we have 5% compound inflation instead of constant and seem to think no new Bitcoins/Litecoins are entering the economy and thus giving them inflation for the new few years. I just hope this clears up some information.
To all my shibes, a little of a wake up call and advice.
Please, please, please only use money you can afford to lose when dealing with Crypto-currencies dogecoin is no exception. It is specially important to think about this when the exchange rate is acting like it is now. Let me be clear about this, dogecoin is being gamed right now by people with huge pockets, by individuals who are using $100Ks to pump up the dogecoin exchange rate. It is not the first time, this has been happening since the beginning. Let's look at the facts. Why do you think dogecoin is as high as it is? Did we implement some new ground breaking tech to the coin? - no Did someone release a killer app using the coin? - no Did we suddenly get an influx of new and active shibes? - no Regardless of the movement of BTC and the USD, there is nothing fundamentally that can justify the high rise of dogecoin in such a speed, except manipulation by nefarious greedy people. They are building up hype and speculation, a currency can not survive purely on speculation, not even a speculative commodity like gold can justify the increase in price over such a short period of time. Dogecoin is being manipulated, it will probably hit around 200 and then they will start to dump as soon as they notice the volumes increase for buy orders. If you really want to compare look at the historical charts, during our peak highs our trade volumes were immense compared to the volumes right now. This does not make any sense at all. Earlier on there were fewer coins in circulation, we had a higher amount of active shibes and had many more vendors. The volumes were around the 1Billion mark. Yet now the volumes have not even broken 100Million , but we have many more dogecoins in circulation. It does not take a financial wizard to see that this is getting gamed. Don't get caught in the hype. Specially don't put money in this that you can not afford to lose. Sure you may make a few dollars here or there, but the whales that are manipulating dogecoin are making hundreds of thousands. A simple look when dogecoin was 15-20 now its 150 roughly 10 times. someone playing with $100K right now has made $100Ks , they are the ones who are going to sell, when everyone wants to jump on the band wagon "thinking before they miss out" , don't fall for it. We have a strong community, let us grow dogecoin organically and steady.
Burstcoin: A Diamond In The Rough That Will Prosper Long Term
https://preview.redd.it/1ry4lf0eut021.png?width=1380&format=png&auto=webp&s=0059c743f940353797fa0aa246ff71ddcdd37f3b http://genesisblocknews.com/burstcoin-a-diamond-in-the-rough-that-will-prosper-long-term/ There are currently 2,074 cryptocurrencies on CoinMarketCap, most of which are copycats, driven by pure ICO greed, or just shitcoins in general. As the napalm of SEC enforcement and investor capitulation burns through the crypto space, most of the cryptocurrencies listed on CoinMarketCap will probably be decimated and relegated to the history books. Burstcoin (BURST) sits way back at #223 on CoinMarketCap, with its market cap near USD 10 million, but it is a diamond in the rough. BURST is truly decentralized, launched with zero ICO nor premine, and uses the unique Proof of Capacity mining algorithm. Therefore, GenesisBlockNews believes BURST will easily survive this ongoing crypto armageddon, and will prosper long term. I first wrote about BURST for BitcoinNews, when I interviewed Burstcoin developer Daniel Jones. You can listen to the interview with Daniel about Burstcoin at this link. At that time BURST was at #248 on CoinMarketCap, and that was during the stable period before this nuclear bear market started. BURST has crawled 25 places up the CoinMarketCap ranks since then, during the worst crypto market conditions in recent memory, showing its grit. This is due to the merits of BURST. BURST uses Proof of Capacity mining, where mining is done with hard drives instead of raw computational power like with Proof of Work. A 1-time hashing cycle is done, which is called plotting, which fills the hard drive with a tremendous amount of cryptographic hashes and proves the capacity of the hard drive. This plot is read during mining to find the correct cryptographic hash, and whoever finds the answer the quickest in their plot gets the block reward. More hard drive space equals more answers, and therefore more hard drive space increases BURST profits when mining. On average every 4 minutes a block is found, and the block reward is around 750 and decreasing at the rate of 5% per month. The block reward started at 10,000 when BURST launched in 2014, and when mining is done there will be 2.158 billion BURST total. Proof of Capacity mining uses practically no electricity, making BURST one of the only profitable cryptocurrencies to mine on personal computers. Even if BURST mining only earns about 1-2 BURST per day on a 1 TB hard drive, that is pure profit, versus mining Bitcoin, Litecoin, or Dogecoin, where energy expenses far outweigh mining revenue when using a personal computer. Since any computer can mine BURST, as long as it has hard drive space, the BURST network is highly decentralized. Currently there is an astonishing 300,000 TB, which is 300 PB, securing the BURST network. That’s equivalent to the hard drive space of hundreds of thousands of personal computers. Beyond the merits of being decentralized, having a unique algorithm, being profitable for mining and easy to use on personal computers, and having zero premine, the BURST development community is comprised of some of the best blockchain developers. BURST has direct on-chain storage via Cloudburst, which has the ability to immutably store files. As long as BURST exists, files stored with Cloudburst will never be deleted. BURST has built-in smart contract technology that can be used to launch any sort of dApp that one can imagine, and an exchange integrated into the BURST wallet to launch and trade crypto assets. Also, BURST seems to have solved the cryptocurrency scalability problem with The Dymaxion, which is layers of tangle-based Lightning Networks. This allows for infinite transactions at zero fees, while using practically zero energy. GenesisBlockNews believes BURST will emerge as a survivor no matter how many cryptocurrencies crash and burn during this nuclear bear market. Due to its merits and attributes, BURST is in a strong position to become a major cryptocurrency in the long term, and seems to be ridiculously under priced at the current value of half a cent per BURST.
Wafflepool and Multipool together control over 50% of the global hashrate. Shibes, this is a serious problem.
tl;dr: MFW I see a threat to Dogecoin: http://i.imgur.com/vtF2yU6.gif As of this writing, Wafflepool (with 37.66% of the network hashrate) and Multipool (with 18.74% of the network hashrate), control 56.34% of the network hash rate. Source: https://pools.rapidhash.net/ This is a problem Are these pools likely to collude to 51% our beloved coin? Not likely at all. Does every human person with access to two computers on the Internet practice perfect security when it comes to authentication and server hardening? Not likely at all. The 51% attack is now quite possible if someone compromises just two computers: the controllers at the top of these two pool hierarchies. +GoodShibe talked about decentralizing hashrate last week in Of Wolves and Weasels. In response, I put up a quick and admittedly quite imperfect project to help explain and combat centralization by promoting ubiquitous CPU mining on existing, unused hardware. Dogecoin needs to be peer-to-peer, for real, to survive The 51% Attack is not theoretical -- read up on the attack last June against Feathercoin. They were unprepared for this and I believe as a result of this event, Feathercoin is now all but dead. Today, the attacker(s) is/are still unknown and presumably at large. I don't know how to solve this. I know there are many, many smart cryptocoin experts on this subreddit. Cheer me up so I can go back to goofing off with this play-pretend-but-really-real-mostly cryptocurrency project. Thanks! edit: first 26 minutes of this post, 3 uprockets, 3 downdigs. funky i guess i have to gun for the controversial tab instead of the hot tab. edit1: first 21 hours of this post, tons of uprockets and tips. Thanks everyone! I learned a lot about hashrate and malicious intent, and I hope others did, too! And here I thought the 0 score was going to doom this post. For more like this, visit /panicdoge!
I've been working on a bot for crypto subs like /r/bitcoin for a few days now. Say hello to crypto_bot!
Hey guys, I've been working on crypto_bot for some time now. It provides a bunch of features that I hope will enhance your experience on /bitcoin (and any other subreddit). You can call it by mentioning it in a comment. I started working on this a few days ago. I'm constantly adding new features and will update this post when I do, but if you're interested I'll post all updates and some tips at /crypto_bot. Please either comment here, message me, or post there if you'd like to report a bug, request a feature, or offer feedback. There's also one hidden command :) You can call multiple commands in one comment. Here's a description of the commands you can use:
Responds with the USD price of one bitcoin from an average of six of the top bitcoin exchanges (BTC-E, Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Coinbase, Kraken, Cryptsy).
Responds with the USD price of one bitcoin at seven exchanges (all of the ones listed above, plus LocalBitcoins). Also lists the average at the bottom.
Responds with the USD price of one bitcoin from [exchange] (any of the seven listed above).
Responds with the USD price of one litecoin, or the price of 1 doge and 1,000 doge.
crypto_bot litecoin|ltc [exchange]
Responds with the USD price of one litecoin from BTC-E, Bitfinex, Kraken, or Cryptsy.
Responds with the price of one bitcoin in the specified currency. Available currencies (symbols): JPY, CNY, SGD, HKD, CAD, NZD, AUD, CLP, GBP, DKK, SEK, ISK, CHF, BRL, EUR, RUB, PLN, THB, KRW, TWD.
crypto_bot [about|info] [arg]
Responds with a short description about [arg], as well as a link to an external site (Wikipedia, bitcoin.it, and some others) for more information. You can list multiple arguments and get a description for each. Available arguments: bitcoin, block chain, transaction, address, genesis, satoshi, mining, confirmation, coinbase, gox, cold wallet, hot wallet.
Responds with calculations and information about how a miner would do with the above data (mining calculator). The only required field is mining speed. Order of the arguments does not matter. Everything other than hashrate defaults to the following if not given: w (watts): 0, kwh ($kilowatt cost/hour): 0, difficulty: current network difficulty, hc$ (hardware cost): $0, $: current bitcoin price in usd (according to Coinbase), % (pool fee): 0. The calculator does not account for nor allow for input of the increase/decrease of difficulty over time, though I may add this feature soon. Working hashing speeds: h/s, kh/s, mh/s, gh/s, th/s, ph/s. Example usage: "crypto_bot calc 30th/s 10w .12kwh hc$55 1.5%" (to make it easier to remember, th/s can also be inputted as ths). This calls the bot with a hashrate of 30 th/s, electricity usage of 10w, a cost of $.12 kWh, a hardware cost of $55, and a pool fee of 1.5%.
crypto_bot number of btc <$amount to convert> [bp$bitcoin price]
Responds with the number of bitcoins you could buy with <$amount to convert>. If the comment specifies a [bp$bitcoin price], it calculates it with that exchange rate. Otherwise, it uses the rate from Coinbase. Example usage: "crypto_bot $419.29 bp$180.32" This calculates how many bitcoins you can buy if you have $419.29 and the bitcoin exchange rate is $180.32.
Signs a message in the bitcoin block chain in a transaction using OP_RETURN. The message must be less than 40 characters. Example usage: "SignMessage! "Post messages in the block chain!"" I hope you find this bot useful! Again, if you have any questions or comments, please either comment on this post, message me, or post on /crypto_bot. Update 1 (June 24, 2015, 17:35): The bot now responds with information if you post a link to a block, transaction, or address on Blockchain.info in a comment, even if you don't call it. For example, if I wrote "https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000126448be07fb1f82af19fbbf07dd7e07ebcd08d42c2660cb" in a comment, it would respond with information about block #362,377. Update 2 (July 10, 2015, 1:59): The bot now has two additional commands: "unconfirmed transactions" (or "unconfirmed tx") and "explain transaction delay" (or "explain tx delay"). The first command responds with the number of unconfirmed transactions, and the second explains why transactions might take extra time to confirm. Update 3 (August 24, 2015, 1:34): The bot now responds in a better way than before when transaction ids or addresses are posted. Before, it only responded when the transaction id or address was used in a link to Blockchain.info. Now the bot will respond whenever a transaction id or address is posted at all; a link to Blockchain.info is no longer necessary. Update 4 (August 27, 2015, 3:00): The bot can now sign messages in the Bitcoin block chain using OP_RETURN.
"To act wisely when the time for action comes, to wait patiently when it is time for repose, put man in accord with the tides. Ignorance of this law results in periods of unreasoning enthusiasm on the one hand, and depression on the other." - Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
How many tractors is it worth? A topic that gets discussed a lot is the Doge/BTC conversion rate. Whenever there's a move you can't get through a page without at least a few posts about how we've beaten xxx satoshi and all debt everywhere is about to disappear! Or we've dropped a few satoshi and it clearly needs to be interpreted as the arrival of the fourth horseman of the apocalypse. So let's have a look at what it actually means. That measure of value is how many hundred millionths of one bitcoin that one doge is worth. Ok... so what does the movement of that number mean for dogecoin? Not much... sorry. It doesn't necessarily mean dogecoin has gone up or down in value, it could just mean that bitcoin has risen or dropped and dogecoin is worth a little more or less bitcoin. It could mean that people are trying to manipulate the price by buying or selling huge amounts to incite panic. Valuing dogecoin based on a different cryptocurrency that has its own fluctuations, its own successes and failures, is a bad way to view success for doge. Also, knowing how many bitcoin we can buy with it is useless because, if you have dogecoin why would anyone want to buy bitcoin with it?? Take the current rate for example, at the time of writing this dogecoin is sitting around 280-290 satoshi, the highest rate it has achieved steadily. The last time it was near that high in late Jan though, bitcoin was worth about $200 more per coin, therefore 230 satoshi at that time meant doge was about the same value in USD that it is now at 280. So am I suggesting that we measure it against USD instead? No. USD also rises and falls constantly, as does every currency, as does the value of every thing that can be purchased. What I'm saying is that this is not a thing worth obsessing over. If you looked at charts of USD against other currencies and saw it going down for a few days, would you suddenly panic, take all of your money out of the bank and exchange it for Indian Rupees because someone on the internet told you that the whole US economy is about to disappear? Dogecoin's value is reliant on what you believe it to be. People have faith in fiat currency, so it has a value. You don't need to look at how many bitcoin your doges can buy, all you need to do is believe in the Ð.
Waves and Meditation Any time you're worried about the price of doge, do yourself a favour and look at the doge/BTC chart on cryptsy, click on the 1M button above it to see the last month, then in another tab play this. Then you will see, all the movements are just waves. Sometimes big, small, high or low, but don't let them stress you. They're natural, perfectly normal. There will always be peaks, and always be drops, that's the way it will always be. You can't fight the waves, so why spend all your time focussing on them and stressing about them? Remember shibes, the tides are caused by the moon. As we get closer to moon, tides rise, with the moon pulling its beloved dogecoins and shibes closer to where they belong. The moon is further away on some days than others, but please don't ever let that make us lose sight of our destination.
But JakeTheDoge, I had the charts surgically implanted into my retinas so I could watch them 24 hours a day! What will I do now?! Well, oddly technological shibe, why don't you try spending a little less time obsessing over meaningless temporary changes and instead spend it looking into what new developments are being made in dogecoin! Or finding new things for us to support and telling the dogecoin foundation about them, or thinking of your own way that you can help spread the love to new shibes! That is what dogecoin truly needs from its shibes, and every little bit you can do to help makes you a part of the revolution of internet currency. So tell your friends, petition your favourite websites, put stickers on anything that won't get you arrested, anything! Do you want to tell your children that you once had thousands or millions of doge but you panic sold them when they were worth a fraction of a cent and that's why dinner will be spam again tonight? Or will you take them shopping for whatever they want, tapping your wrist against the register with your digital doge wallet implanted under your skin (probably... apparently people already have screens on their retinas, subcutaneous doge wallets can't be far off) while telling them for the 400th time that you were there, right at the beginning you were there, and you helped make a revolution.
Tl;dr Worried about doge/satoshi rates? Stop looking at charts, go lay on a beach and listen to the waves, then your moon ride is gonna be silky smooth. Just relax man, the Ðoge abides. 1 doge = 1 doge = love Love, JakeTheDoge – moonship technician
P.S. As I mentioned here I am doing this not for profit. So if anyone is interested and tips in my bloge posts, half of that will go to the dogecoin foundation and the other half will be used for giveaway threads, most likely done once a week if it goes well. Thanks shibes!
Ethereum is almost certainly the number 2 coin in comedy gold. It will likely surpass Bitcoin in comedy gold long before it passes it in market cap. Thanks in large part to a spam-based marketing campaign on Reddit, it also has a dedicated base of critics. After its IPO, it was known as “Inthereum” for a while, infinitely powerful of course, as vaporware can do anything. It had a major version release, then another. Finally, a major smart contract, in terms of valuation, came along: The DAO. Not to be confused with other DAOs, before and after. The DAO was the biggest. It was going to be the best; it already was the best! Euphoria was off the charts. Until just a few months in, a bug was found. And the killer app became the flash point. What could they do? Well, hard fork and give the money back, of course! And so they did. “Code is Law”; but this is actually good for Ethereum because “[a]lthough some do question the analogy ‘code is law’. I do not. We just found out that we have a supreme court, the community!”  After the D'OH, Ethereum struggles to top its ATH comedy gold, but there is still a bright future for popcorn and comedy gold from Ethereum.
5 Largest Veins of Comedy Gold
Here are the largest comedy gold veins in Ethereum in potential reserves in our estimation in approximately descending order:
Cultlike euphoria - Now, this can certainly be said to be common to almost all cryptocurrencies. But Ethereum seems special here, even more than Bitcoin's community. There is a real belief here that this coin is going to change the world. This helps play into a "this is very good for Ethereum" mindset, wherein even the D'OH fork was a great success!
Vitalik Buterin - The best name in cryptocurrency! Young genius central to Ethereum and almost universally seen as the most important leader in the project. In our view, his endorsement and leadership during the D'OH fork led to that route being taken. That is, we believe if he had opposed it from the start, he may have been able to prevent it or at least have led to what is now called ETC being the dominant of the two.
And so in our view, Mr. Buterin runs a billion dollar cryptocurrency right now. He and his team seem to have done reasonably well so far; it seems likely they'll continue to thrive. To the best of my knowledge, confirmed on /ethereum, there hasn't been a drug market implemented in Ethereum or trading with ETH so far. But while it seems like a terrible idea, because of the lack of privacy and proven mutability of contracts, it seems like eventually there's going to be a major drug market accepting ETH just because it has such a high value. And, they point out, monero and zcoin’s core privacy feature will apparently be available on ETH after this next fork, so look forward to anonymous ETH fueling drug markets! And then the interesting question will be raised of how Chief Justice Buterin will rule on the case, whether it is worthy of an intervention or not. If not a drug market, then another buggy and hacked contract. Or a hacked exchange, and the question of whether to make it or its users whole, or "let the hacker win".
DAOs - From the beginning, it was proposed that Ethereum itself and its reserve fund would be turned into a DAO. How exactly this was going to happen would be figured out later of course. There was an initial estimate of 2016 for the transition.
Of course, in 2016, The DAO and the D'OH happened. I'm not aware of a current further push to put all of ETH's future funding into a DAO. But I'm sure the topic will resurface. And it will be hilarious on so many levels. The DAO actually collapsed too soon for peak comedy gold extraction. It had been predicted that there would be no consensus on any proposals and that nothing would be funded, and that there would be gold from that. But it was just a few months in when the bug was found. And while the D'OH fork was certainly a rich vein of comedy gold, it wasn't as rich as what the DAO could have been if it had floundered around for a year or so before the hack. Surprisingly, there's actually a running, apparently working DAO on ETH that was started even before The DAO: digixDAO. If it keeps on running, it will continue to be hilarious as other DAOs fail to learn from it. If it fails, there's all the more hilarity for Ethereum, making it the platform where anything complicated enough to look like an original use case will break. The very existence of digix is proof-of-comedy-gold.
Immutability - The whole central notion of immutability is going to be a recurring question for Ethereum after the D'OH. While there was a lot of sentiment of "just this once and never again" at the time, there will someday be another major issue, and the precedent will mean that at least a major debate among the community will be had. Ethereum is "mostly immutable". Bitcoin is far better protected here, because while it's true they've hard forked to fix a bug before, that was years ago and the community is far more fractured now. Ethereum has a demonstrated capacity to do both routine and controversial hard forks. This strength is also a challenge, as it will invite constant legal and ethical questions about when it's appropriate to modify the chain itself with a fork: that is, rolling back some or all transactions after major bugs, thefts, frauds, and so forth.
Concentration of funds - This one I'm just guessing at. Although rich lists do exist, obviously one entity like an exchange could pool funds in an address without one person owning that much, or one person could splits their coins among many accounts. But it gives a rough guide. In Bitcoin, the top 113 addresses, having more than 10,000 BTC, in total are 17.46% of the current supply [ 2 ]. And in Ethereum, it's true that the top two accounts are marked as exchange accounts [ 3 ]. Still, having lots of funds concentrated in a single exchange wallet seems to still have some potential for comedy gold. In Ethereum, the top 50 addresses have more than double the proportion of the top 113 in Bitcoin, a bit over 40% of the current supply. My guess would be there are still a lot of people who invested heavily in the initial ICO who have held onto a significant portion of their initial ETH. While some of these top addresses are exchanges, I think there are probably many individuals represented in here as well, and every one of them is a multimillionaire from this account alone.
Of course, so far, because ETH is still smaller than BTC in overall market cap, these top addresses aren't as huge as the top addresses in Bitcoin in current market value. But if ETH were to overtake BTC's current position with a relatively unchanged distribution, there would be some real comedy gold coming off this factor. Cribs could have a spin-off Ethereum series. This concentration was a part of making The D'OH what it was in my view as well: in Bitcoin, there would never have been so much of the coin tied up in one particular venture, at least not now. But in Ethereum, this concentration and groupthink can combine to hilarious effect.
A Brief History of Comedy Gold in Ethereum:
“Laws, like sausages, cease to inspire respect in proportion as we know how they are made” - John Godfrey Saxe In the beginning, there was an offering. The greatest coin the world had ever seen; step right up and buy it! There was even code; this is no vaporware! Sure, there was more work to be done, but the ICO would fund that work, the founders would get a little, and create a reserve for the future and the rest would be mineable. There was also some of the most vociferous objections on BCT, declaring that the stake allocated to the founders was too large, pointing to other coins which had done smaller or done without. Arguing against the reserve; arguing against having a presale at all. Some people, of course, completely failing to read the documentation accurately to see what was even being proposed. And an almost complete radio silence from this large team working around the clock on Ethereum. It took some months from when the initial ANN was made until the sale actually started, but by the time they had their sale, they had perhaps the best documentation at launch to-date. Of course, there were some areas which seemed to lack some detail, like the budgeting, but never mind that, it was finally launching! Launching the sale, at least. In July and August of 2014, Ether was first sold. It was described as “fuel” for the virtual machine they were going to build [ 4 ]. And then, a year later, Ethereum was released live. By July 2016, it had already had its first major crisis after The DAO was hacked and the D’OH fork introduced in response. But the fact that Ethereum was ever released, and that it was released so quickly, is truly incredible. There was more than one person who thought that the stated goals of Ethereum were not possible. And, of course, many initial goals and deadlines didn’t happen. But unlike the railbirds on BCT were convinced, the team did not fail nor did it run off with the money. They were given a blank check, and they actually delivered a working product which has been successful so far financially. Of course, having its flagship smart contract go belly-up quite so quickly after having finally gotten a “killer app” seems rather unfortunate. The oracle problem (the question of how to reliably relate smart contracts to the outside world) seems unresolved, but partial solutions are inevitable and can only serve to make increasingly complex and thus popcorn-loaded contracts possible. Right now, all seems relatively quiet. But rest assured, there remains plenty of euphoria and gas to drive many more cycles of comedy gold production. Ether huffers need something to throw their ETH at. The more complicated; the better! Given some of the creations that have been made in NXT, for instance, a few more years of creativity on ETH should yield some very complicated and pop-corn rich smart contracts.
I was relaxing in my office, waiting for business. It was a dingy little one-room affair, but it would serve for now. Particularly with no clients. I had poured myself a double shot, and was about to enjoy it, when suddenly the door opened. A man walked in, familiar somehow although I couldn't place him. I reached out my hand instinctively, and instead of shaking it, he handed me a dollar. "Hello?" He pointed at the sign in the window, advertising a promotional one dollar gold survey for the first client. Always astute, I quickly surmised he wished to hire me. "Of course, sir! What coin would you like?" "Ethereum." "Certainly! And may I have your name for the log?" "Tyler Durdan." And with that, my newest client left. I downed my double and poured a generous triple to follow it. This was going to be a long day. Ethereum was the ultimate prize in my line of work. The coin which proved the adage that truth is stranger than fiction; which had proved itself a lucrative source of comedy gold. And who am I? Guy Noir, private comedy gold surveyor. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Premined scamcoins crashing on noname exchanges. I watched popcorn glitter in the dark on forgotten the BCT threads. Popcorn junkies strung out on a high, and I've delivered them more comedy gold, popcorn, salt and butter. There is never enough. A dark night in a world that never sleeps and knows how to keep its secrets...But on the 12th Floor of the Acme Building, one man is still trying to find the answers to life's persistent questions: Guy Noir, private comedy gold surveyor. Thank you, Narrator. Now, as I was saying, Ethereum is overloaded with gold. But the core is pretty straightforward: Ethereum promised "smart contracts". Immutable. Turing-complete. This was what Bitcoin lacked. The bee's knees. Crypto 2.0. What could go wrong? We'll skip over the "Inthereum" period. Perhaps the vaporware criticism was never fair: from their version, they had Proof-of-Concept code; they went through some iterations and eventually got to release. Let's note clearly that there was plenty of time to determine some sort of official policy for what to do about a buggy or improperly written contract losing money. In Bitcoin, every hack has been a SFYL event, although it’s true that a bug in the coin itself was hard forked away before. Mt. Gox tried to blame malleability, but there was never a fork to try to recover funds. In Ethereum, immutability was often talked about. So far as I saw in skimming, “what if” scenarios to undo bugs wasn’t brought up front-and-center. Nor was immutability being debated that I saw. So Ethereum releases. A major contract is launched, The DAO, which gets an astonishing portion of ETH invested. The world's largest crowd sale as they ultimately called it. All the major players in ETH buy into it, including Vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum and the best name in cryptocurrency. Just as they're starting to get into the comedy gold that The DAO doesn't really have a purpose, a bug is discovered. And just as its leader is assuring everyone that no funds are at risk, the funds start being drained out of the contract by an unknown party. And suddenly immutable means "immutable unless we screw up on the biggest contract which everyone important has invested in heavily". Ethereum ultimately hard-forks to return investor funds and basically unwind The DAO. After claiming that the bug was in the contract, the coin itself is hard forked to fix the issue. And the first Ethereum clone results, one which simply does not follow the new hard fork. So the natural question is: when can a contract be changed? In the first page of the Ethereum launch, this question was implied by asking about what would happen if there were an assassination market hosted by a smart contract on Ethereum. Of course, in reality, Ethereum is not really functional enough at present to enforce such a contract, but the question remains in case Ethereum were to actually attain a functioning smart contract platform. Attempted reference to Tears in rain monologue, credit to Rutger Hauer Guy Noir and narrator text lovingly stolen from Prairie Home Companion's Guy Noir, by Garrison B. Keillor.
Filed for psych eval Twenty pages into the BCT ANN, I believe I have contracted cancer, again. I’m reminded of why I don’t generally go on BCT. As bad as altcoin forums tend to be for their circlejerking, it’s almost better than the, well, there’s really no way to put it other than FUD that inevitably appears in response to anything. Of course, it’s not paid shilling so much as it is willful and vocal ignorance. For all the critiques in that thread, most of them are utter nonsense and simply are misreading the initial information. On the other hand, it’s January 27th in the thread by now, with February 1st and the pre-sale start, and they don’t have their “prospectus” up yet. I also haven’t seen the change in mining rate yet. Side note: eMunie; wtf? I guess I missed something? Either it’s gone through a namechange or it’s dead, because a quick coinmarketcap search didn’t find anything. A comedy gold mining project for another day. Great; spoiler alert: fundraiser delayed apparently, so even more cancer to read through in that thread on the way to getting to a prospectus! The first 44 pages of the thread was summarized thus: “I want to believe. Why are you not speaking to us? Throw me a bone. Just tell me what I want to hear, and I'll gladly throw my money in.” [ 5 ] Would that I had only had to read that quote rather than all 44 pages, and facing many more. Pages and comments dragged on as I waded through the low-grade popcorn. When would this prospectus be released, so my torment would end? Oh god: a side-thread shows that by the time they get to April, there’s still no prospectus or presale date or estimate of when there may be a date [ 6 ]. It’s time to give up on reading through the cancerous mainthread on BCT and start jumping ahead pages to find the pre-sale and prospectus. Okay, finally, in July, they release documents and start the sale [ 7 ]. Good enough. I have mountains of links on my desk. Comedy gold is overflowing, but this is a survey expedition, not a mining operation. But by the time it’s surveyed, there’s always so much gold lined up to mine it gets hard to leave it behind and leave with the samples. It’s time to hammer out some copy and close this file. Folks, we hope you’ve enjoyed this descent into madness and comedy gold brought to you by the Comedy Gold Survey Company and our patron Tyler Durden. Do you need more comedy gold in your life? Of course you do! So please donate today; every $1 helps! I’ve added a new special: $5 lets you choose the next coin to be surveyed! Thanks again to Tyler Durden, and I will now be re-watching Fight Club and questioning my sanity. Cheers y’all! Resources:
[ 6 ] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448923.msg6438910#msg6438910 - April 28th, 2014; Ursium says “We won't issue further comments regarding the Ether Sale, until we have completely finalized the framework for it. In the meantime enjoy the free technology, people are already building apps on it, which is exciting Smiley” ; this official Q&A thread then abandoned; these guys clearly hates BCT as much as I do
[ ] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412878.msg4497464#msg4497464 charleshoskinson, January 14th, 2014; “Current plans are for a 60 day fundraiser, starting from Miami on; however, we are still exploring this and thus will set something in stone closer to the conference.” - fundraiser launches in less than a month but date not even set yet; also “No, the rate of inflation is always decreasing and comparable with bitcoin.” and “In terms of ROI, this should be reflected with a positive ROI.” ; also “As for P2P exchange, we have a close relationship with Open Transactions and combined with a namecoin style contract provided in the whitepaper and bitmessage makes a significantly more efficient distributive exchange than is possible with BitShares. Trust is not required as auditing can be done on Ethereum blockchain and we wouldn't suffer any bloat. “
[ ] https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/White-Paper - Accessed Feb 12, 2017; shows a different version of the issuance model, including the variable presale price modification and reduced future mining. But constant mining reward is still shown and fixed.
[ ] https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2007/whitepaper-pdf - Thread from April 2015 where Stephen Tual says changes in whitepaper were “as to how significant these were, probably not much”; “We had a hosted copy of the WP on our .org website, but that is now pointing to the github (as the pdf, by definition, was static).”
[ ] https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,1854.0.html Thread which goes into Bytemaster response to initial Ethereum proposal; points out that running something complicated like Bitshares on Ethereum would be cost prohibitive. Also predicts Ethereum becomes PoS.
[ ] https://github.com/slockit/DAO “Our Standard DAO Framework allows people to create Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs) governed by the code in this repository written immutably to the blockchain.”
[ ] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg4690140#msg4690140 - “I think this whole project will get forced underground onto the Tor network in short order because the illegal stuff will be in the blockchain instead of externalized. It will have to directly compete with bitcoin with both hands tied behind its back because it will be hard for people to even find a safe copy of the program to download. Am I to understand that you will not have a legal opinion supporting what you are doing?” - Seth Otterstad
[ ] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg4718951#msg4718951 “We will switch our PoW from Dagger to a hybrid PoW/PoS system to be developed via a bountied competition conducted by our university partners and open to the general community for participation. The terms will be announced in late february including judges, specifications and the university partners.” - jubalix quoting some Ethereum promotional document
[ ] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg4740396#msg4740396 “Creating the platform with new features is one thing. Competing in the real world of hype, adoption, and social marketing with Bitcoin, Litecoin, and Dogecoin is a completely different beast. Especially, when every coin is based on ever changing software. The software is secondary to the marketing and socialization at this stage in the ballgame.” - DieJohnny
A Truly Valuable Coin with a Long History After learning the ropes of crypto in /dogecoin, a lot of Shibes want to expand their horizons and “graduate” to other interesting coins. People pass through /dogecoin from time-to-time promoting the latest greatest “S%#tcoin”. Some Shibes buy into the hype and get burned. The wonder coin disappears in a few weeks. The only people who make money are the promoters. A smart Shibe like you understands that scarcity, good distribution, proven demand, liquidity and a great community is what adds value to a crypto currency. Ladies and Gentleshibes… I give you Unobtanium. We call it “Uno”. I’m really gonna give you some. We want to share our great community and the solid proven economics of Unobtanium to all of the shibes. Go get your wallet here: http://unobtanium.uno so I can make it rain on you! NO HYPE: JUST HISTORY It is difficult to acquire. It is rare. It is OLD in crypto-time. (Launched in October 2013). We have a great and active community over at BTC Talk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.0 We also have a Reddit sub at /unobtanium. Join us! Uno was 0% pre-mined, not even a single block. Launch was pre-announced on Bitcointalk and COMPLETELY FAIR. There is no POS to erode your UNO holdings over time. If one UNO is lost, then there will be one less UNO, forever. Our lead developer is the famous Bryce Weiner—not some anonymous pump and dumper. Nobody made a huge profit on the back of the community when Uno was born. There are more than 10,000 Unobtainium wallets in existence after 15 months. Uno is rare and fair. Those are our founding principles. • It's rare: we are at 194k coins and it will take a long time to get to 195k. It will take 300 years for the last UNO to be mined. • High mining rate from day one distributed to 100s of miners. • It's secure. UNO is running Top 5 strongest networks on the planet. In a few weeks, we will begin merge mining with Bitcoin itself! • It stores value and rises steadily, Look at the all-time chart in USD: http://bravenewcoin.com/unobtanium/. Current value of 1 UNO is $3.14 EACH. That's 19,912 Doge. LEARN about Uno from some recent press: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112717/the-alt-cracks-altcoin-stories-that-fell-through-the-cracks https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/unobtanium/ http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/03/08/unobtanium-can-consider-stable-cryptocurrency/ It's raining Unobtanium. 1 Uno = 1 kilogram. 1000 grams in a Kilo. In .01 units (one 100th of a Uno, 10 grams, equal to 199 Dogecoins) to anyone who posts a Uno wallet address in this thread for the remainder of this week. Get your wallet at www.unobtanium.uno Some lucky Shibes who comment and use one of the 11 “Secret Uno Words” in their comment will get 10 TIMES the Uno! .1 Uno, or 100 grams (worth 1999 Doge) to the FIRST Shibe who uses each of one of the magic Uno-related words! It’s time to rain UNO. Post your wallet and tell me why you want to own and HODL Uno for the long run! I will check in every few hours for the next 5 days and rain on unique wallets. I'll be keeping track of the wallet addresses and usernames. A hard rain's a gonna fall! Thanks to everyone who came and got UNO! This Giveaway is COMPLETE!
Commissioning a cryptocurrency supply chart - will pay up to Ð700
Happy New Years Fellow Shibes! I'm interested in seeing a chart of coin supply and inflation rate over a long term time frame for several cryptocurrencies, with of course dogecoin being one of my favorite. I'd like to build something in google sheets for my own investment decision making. Before I spend too much time gathering the data to build this myself, I thought I'd offer this to the community as an opportunity to get paid in dogecoin. If someone out there would like to put together a chart that meet the criteria below, I'll start at Ð300 and add Ð100 bonuses for several specific elements, paying up to Ð700 for the best chart:
cryptocurrencies include dogecoin, bitcoin, ethereum, and monero.
30 year time frame on x axis beginning with bitcoin genesis block
left y axis coin supply (relative supply since coins will have different orders of magnitude)
Market Analysis: All Major Cryptocurrencies Up 4-10 Percent, Tron (TRX) Rallies 15 Percent
https://preview.redd.it/b5m4txn0zga21.png?width=690&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bca74656c8541e6c18eaaf77496e6ba8b42fe95 https://cryptoiq.co/market-analysis-all-major-cryptocurrencies-up-4-10-percent-tron-trx-rallies-15-percent/ The crypto market has been like a rollercoaster the past couple of days. Yesterday, Bitcoin (BTC) plunged from $3,620 to $3,500 in less than 30 minutes, and today, Bitcoin rallied from $3,530 to $3,670 in about an hour. Afterward, the price of Bitcoin slowly increased to $3,700 but has now dropped a bit and is near $3,660 as of this writing. This represents a four percent gain for Bitcoin (BTC) in the past day. Other major cryptocurrencies have done even better. Ripple (XRP) is up five percent; Ethereum (ETH) is up 10 percent; Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is up six percent; Bitcoin SV (BSV) is up five percent; EOS is up nine percent; Stellar (XLM) is up five percent; Dash is up five percent; Dogecoin (DOGE) is up four percent; and Litecoin (LTC) is up six percent. IOTA, which is the number one directed acyclic graph (DAG) cryptocurrency is up five percent. The privacy coins Monero (XMR) and Zcash (ZEC) are both up six percent. The biggest success story of the day is Tron (TRX) with a 15 percent rally. Tron (TRX) has truly been on a rollercoaster this past month with a 170 percent price increase followed by a 36 percent price drop, and now today’s rally. Today’s price action could possibly be a double peak, which is common when speculative bubbles pop. Yesterday it was speculated that the current Tron (TRX) market may turn into a pump and dump. The rallies of all major cryptocurrencies have caused an increase in the total cryptocurrency market cap from $117 billion to $123.5 billion (5.5 percent). Currently, the cryptocurrency market cap is almost exactly the same as it was before yesterday’s crash. Therefore, today’s price action has simply recovered yesterday’s losses. Ethereum (ETH) is perhaps back to rally mode because of speculation that the Constantinople hard fork coming in less than a few days will be a good thing for Ethereum (ETH) since it slashes the inflation rate and lowers transaction fees. Ethereum (ETH) has gained ground on Ripple’s (XRP) market cap and is only $300 million away from re-taking the number two spot, whereas yesterday Ethereum (ETH) was $900 million behind Ripple (XRP). Miners are the ones losing out from the slashing of the Ethereum (ETH) inflation rate, i.e. the block reward, from three Ether to two, and tension between miners and developers may cause price turbulence for Ethereum (ETH) and ERC-20 tokens in the coming weeks. Numerous cryptocurrencies in the top 100 on CoinMarketCap are ERC-20 tokens. Perhaps an event that could influence the crypto market in coming days is the Bitcoin futures expiration on the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBoE) on Jan. 16. January appears to be a month dominated by short sellers, so perhaps short sellers on CBoE will bang the close and cause Bitcoin’s (BTC) price to decline right before expiration to increase their short-selling profits. $3,900 continues to be the level to watch since that is likely where Bitcoin futures traders on CME took out their monthly short positions. Bitcoin (BTC) has some freedom to go upwards before encountering strong resistance at that level. As the Jan. 25 CME Bitcoin futures expiration approaches, the chance of a Bitcoin (BTC) price drop becomes more likely.
Why I believe dogecoin value will rise very soon, very high
I've also been looking at the prices lately, we as a community work so hard to make dogecoin usable and fun for people all around the world. I don't believe any coin did it like we did, and I'm very happy to be here. But as you all know and have been worried about the price, low price is a problem for us, mainly because I will reduce hash rates and the value of the money we have here can buy us less value when we make campaigns and happy things like doge4nascar, if you remember the 67.5 millions we arranged was worth at the end something like 50 million because the price got down, only because Moolah fix the price for a buyer we made it :) Ok so now the info why I think dogecoin will rise. prices are detarmined by demand, and we have less demand then bitcoin and litecoin because we are not traded on the major exchanges out there. for example when I look at litecoin today I see it has $ 21Mil from BTC-E and almost 1.5mil from BTC China, and more from OKcoin and other Chinese exchanges that are not listed here: http://coinmarketcap.com/volume.html all those exchanges are the main volume of crypto currencies today, Cryptsy and BTER that we know and others doesn't really have much volume with them, as you can see in the list. Dogecoin has an avg of $1mil a day and it is very good volume if you take in calc that it is only traded on the small exchanges, and in spite of that he is the main trader in the exchanges he is traded at! yes read it again he is the main trader in the exchanges he is traded at! now that China will probably not ban bitcoin, and we all heard rumors that BTC china and other china main players will accept dogecoin, when this happens out daily volume will go from $1min to $7mil a day, and if you take care of the charts when dogecoin volume was high the price traded for BTC was 150-200 satoshi. So I think we have a happy future for all of us. we just need to wait or actively convince the big exchanges to accept dogecoin and the rest is history. you will come here to read this in the future when we get there. Moon.
The Strange Birth & History of Monero, Part III: Decentralized team
You can read here part I (by americanpegaus). This is the post that motivated me to make the part II. Now i'm doing a third part, and there'll be a final 4th part. This is probably too much but i wasn't able to make it shorter. Some will be interested in going through all them, and maybe someone is even willing to make a summary of the whole serie :D. Monero - an anonymous coin based on CryptoNote technology https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.0 Comentarios de interés: -4: "No change, this is just a renaming. In the future, the binaries will have to be changed, as well as some URL, but that's all. By the way, this very account (monero) is shared by several user and is meant to make it easier to change the OP in case of vacancy of the OP. This idea of a shared OP comes from Karmacoin. Some more things to come:
A website (URL will be monero.cc)
A GUI wallet
" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6362672#msg6362672) -5: “Before this thread is too big, I would like to state that a bug has been identified in the emission curve and we are currently in the process of fixing it (me, TFT, and smooth). Currently coins are emitted at double the rate that was intended. We will correct this in the future, likely by bitshifting values of outputs before a certain height, and then correcting 1 min blocks to 2 min blocks. The changes proposed will be published to a Monero Improvement Protocol on github.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6363016#msg6363016) [tacotime make public the bug in the emission curve: token creation is currently 2 times what was intended to be, see this chart BTC vs the actual XMR curve, as it was and it is now, vs the curve that was initially planned in yellow see chart] -14: “Moving discussion to more relevant thread, previous found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578192.msg6364026#msg6364026 I have to say that I am surprised that such an idea [halving current balances and then changing block target to 2 min with same block reward to solve the emission curve issue] is even being countenanced - there are several obvious arguments against it. Perception - what kind of uproar would happen if this was tried on a more established coin? How can users be expected to trust a coin where it is perceived that the devs are able and willing to "dip" into people's wallets to solve problems? Technically - people are trying to suggest that this will make no difference since it applies to reward and supply, which might be fair enough if the cap was halved also, but it isn't. People's holdings in the coin are being halved, however it is dressed up. Market price - How can introducing uncertainty in the contents of people's wallets possibly help market price? I may well be making a fool of myself here, but I have never heard of such a fix before, unless you had savings in a Cypriot bank - has this ever been done for another coin?” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364174#msg6364174) -15: “You make good points but unfortunately conflicting statements were made and it isn't possible to stick to them all. It was said that this coin had a mining reward schedule similar to bitcoin. In fact it is twice as fast as intended, even even a bit more than twice as fast as bitcoin. If you acquired your coins on the basis of the advertised reward schedule, you would be disappointed, and rightfully so, as more coins come to into existence more quickly than you were led to believe. To simply ignore that aspect of the bug is highly problematic. Every solution may be highly problematic, but the one being proposed was agreed as being the least bad by most of the major stakeholders. Maybe it will still not work, this coin will collapse, and there will need to be a relaunch, in which case all your coins will likely be worthless. I hope that doesn't happen.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364242#msg6364242) [smooth tries to justify his proposal to solve the emission curve issue: halve every current balance and change block target to 2 min with same block reward] -16: “This coin wasn't working as advertised. It was supposed to be mined slowly like BTC but under the current emission schedule, 39% would be mined by the first year and 86% by the fourth year. Those targets have been moved out by a factor of 2, i.e. 86% mined by year 8, which is more like BTC's 75% by year 8. So the cap has been moved out much further into the future, constraining present and near-term supply, which is what determines the price.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364257#msg6364257) [eizh supports smooth’s plan] -20: “So long as the process is fair and transparent it makes no difference what the number is... n or n/2 is the same relative value so long as the /2 is applied to everyone. Correcting this now will avoid people accusing the coin of a favourable premine for people who mined in the first week.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364338#msg6364338) [random user supporting smooth’s idea] -21: “Why not a reduction in block reward of slightly more than half to bring it into line with the proposed graph? That would avoid all sorts of perceptual problems, would not upset present coin holders and be barely noticeable to future miners since less than one percent of coins have been mined so far, the alteration would be very small?” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364348#msg6364348) -22: “Because that still turns into a pre-mine or instamine where a few people got twice as many coins as everyone else in the first week. This was always a bug, and should be treated as such.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364370#msg6364370) [smooth wants to be sure they can’t be stigmatized as “premine”] -23: “No, not true [answering to "it makes no difference what the number is... n or n/2 is the same relative value so long as the /2 is applied to everyone"]. Your share of the 18,000,000 coins is being halved - rightly or wrongly.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364382#msg6364382) [good point made by a user that is battling “hard” with smooth and his proposal] -28: “+1 for halving all coins in circulation. Would they completely disappear? What would the process be?” -31: “I will wait for the next coin based on CryptoNote. Many people, including myself, avoided BMR because TFT released without accepting input from anyone (afaik). I pm'ed TFT 8 days before launch to help and didn't get response until after launch. Based on posting within the thread, I bet there were other people. Now the broken code gets "fixed" by taking away coins.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364531#msg6364531) -32: “What you say is true, and I can't blame anyone from simply dropping this coin and wanting a complete fresh start instead. On the other hand, this coin is still gaining in popularity and is already getting close to bytecoin in hash rate, while avoiding its ninja premine. There is a lot done right here, and definitely a few mistakes.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364574#msg6364574) [smooth stands for the project legitimacy despite the bugs] -37: “Since everything is scaled and retroactive, the only person to be affected is... me. Tongue Because I bought BMR with BTC, priced it with incorrect information, and my share relative to the eventual maximum has been halved. Oh well. The rest merely mined coins that never should have been mined. The "taking away coins" isn't a symptom of the fix: it's the fundamental thing that needed fixing. The result is more egalitarian and follows the original intention. Software is always a work-in-progress. Waiting for something ideal at launch is pretty hopeless. edit: Let me point out that most top cryptocurrencies today were released before KGW and other new difficulty retargeting algorithms became widespread. Consequently they had massive instamines on the first day, even favorites in good standing like LTC. Here the early miners are voluntarily reducing their eventual stake for the sake of fairness. How cool is that?” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364886#msg6364886) [this is eizh supporting the project too] -43: “I'm baffled that people are arguing about us making the emission schedule more fair. I'm an early adopter. This halves my money, and it's what I want to do. There's another change that needs to be talked about too: we don't believe that microscopic levels of inflation achieved at 9 or 10 years will secure a proof-of-work network. In fact, there's a vast amount of evidence from DogeCoin and InfiniteCoin that it will not. So, we'd like to fix reward when it goes between 0.25 - 1.00 coins. To do so, we need to further bitshift values to decrease the supply under 264-1 atomic units to accommodate this. Again, this hurts early adopters (like me), but is designed to ensure the correct operation of the chain in the long run. It's less than a week old, and if we're going to hardfork in economic changes that make sense we should do it now. We're real devs turning monero into the coin it should have been, and our active commitment should be nothing but good news. Fuck the pump and dumps, we're here to create something with value that people can use.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6366134#msg6366134) [tacotime brings to the public for first time the tail emission proposal and writes what is my favourite sentence of the whole monero history: “Fuck the pump and dumps, we're here to create something with value that people can use”] -51: “I think this is the right attitude. Like you I stand to "lose" from this decision in having my early mining halved, but I welcome it. Given how scammy the average coin launch is, I think maximizing fairness for everyone is the right move. Combining a fair distribution with the innovation of Cryptonote tech could be what differentiates Monero from other coins.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6366346#msg6366346) -59: “Hello! It is very good that you've created this thread. I'm ok about renaming. But I can't agree with any protocol changes based only on decisions made by bitcointalk.org people. This is because not all miners are continiously reading forum. Any decision about protocol changes are to be made by hashpower-based voting. From my side I will agree on such a decision only if more than 50% of miners will agree. Without even such a simple majority from miners such changes are meaningless. In case of hardfork that isn't supported by majority of miners the network will split into two nets with low-power fork and high-power not-forking branches. I don't think that this will be good for anybody. Such a voting is easy to be implemented by setting minor_version of blocks to a specific value and counting decisions made after 1000 of blocks. Do you agree with such a procedure?” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368478#msg6368478) [TFT appears after a couple days of inactivity] -63: “In few days I will publish a code with merged mining support. This code will be turned ON only by voting process from miners. What does it mean:
miners supporting merged mining are to update their nodes and miners. New miners will issue blocks with modified minor_version field indicating they are ready to accept AuxPoW blocks. But no AuxPoW blocks will be issued before 75% of last 1000 blocks will have a positive vote (a changed minor_version).
miners not supporting will not update but will still be able to mine and accept blocks. In case of successful voting they will have to switch to new code. In case of voting failed they can stay on old version.
The same procedure is suitable for all other protocol changes.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368720#msg6368720) [And now he is back, TFT is all about merged mining] -67: “We don't agree that a reverse split amounts to "taking" coins. I also wouldn't agree that a regular forward split would be "giving" coins. It's an exchange of old coins with new coins, with very nearly the exact same value. There is a very slight difference in value due to the way the reward schedule is capped, but that won't be relevant for years or decades. Such a change is entirely reasonable to fix an error in a in coin that has only existed for a week.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368861#msg6368861) -68: “There were no error made in this coin but now there is an initiative to make some changes. Changes are always bad and changes destroy participant confidence even in case these changes are looking as useful. We have to be very careful before making any changes in coins” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368939#msg6368939) [TFT does not accept the unexpected emission curve as a bug] -72: “You are wrong TFT. The original announcement described the coin as having a reward curve "close to Bitcoin's original curve" (those are your exact words). The code as implemented has a reward curve that is nothing like bitcoin. It will be 86% mined in 4 years. It will be 98% mined in 8 years. Bitcoin is 50% mined in 4 years, and 75% in 8 years. With respect TFT, you did the original fork, and you deserve credit for that. But this coin has now gone beyond your initial vision. It isn't just a question of whether miners are on bitcointalk or not. There is a great team of people who are working hard to make this coin a success, and this team is collaborating regularly through forum posts, IRC, PM and email. And beyond that a community of users who by and large have been very supportive of the efforts we've taken to move this forward. Also, miners aren't the only stakeholders, and while a miner voting process is great, it isn't the answer to every question. Though I do agree that miners need to be on board with any hard fork to avoid a harmful split.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369137#msg6369137) [smooth breaks out publicily for first time against TFT] -75: “I suppose that merged mining as a possible option is a good idea as soon as nobody is forced to use it. MM is a possibility to accept PoW calculated for some other network. It helps to increase a security of both networks and makes it possible for miners not to choose between two networks if they want both:
BCN only miners will continue to mine BCN
BMMRO only miners will continue to mine BMMRO
merge miners will mine both at the same time (now some of them mine BCN only and other - BMR only)
Important things to know about MM:
MM doesn't imply that BMR is smaller or has a less hashpower. In case BMR will has more mining power than BCN it will simply accept less BCN blocks.
MM doesn't force BMR users to have BCN chain on their HDD - BCN chain isn't neede to verify blocks
MM doesn't require any specific parent chain. Miner decides himself which parent chain to use: BCN or any other chain supporting the same PoW method.
Actually the only change that goes with MM is that we are able to accept PoW from some other net with same hash-function. Each miner can decide his own other net he will merge mine BMR with. And this is still very secure. This way I don't see any disadvantage in merged mining. What disadvantages do you see in MM?” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369255#msg6369255) [TFT stands for merged mining] -77: “Merged mining essentially forces people to merge both coins because that is the only economically rational decision. I do not want to support the ninja-premined coin with our hash rate. Merged mining makes perfect sense for a coin with a very low hash rate, otherwise unable to secure itself effectively. That is the case with coins that merge mine with bitcoin. This coin already has 60% of the hash rate of bytecoin, and has no need to attach itself to another coin and encourage sharing of hash rate between the two. It stands well on its own and will likely eclipse bytecoin very soon. I want people to make a clear choice between the fair launched coin and the ninja-premine that was already 80% mined before it was made public. Given such a choice I believe most will just choose this coin. Letting them choose both allows bytecoin to free ride on what we are doing here. Let the ninja-preminers go their own way.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369386#msg6369386) [smooth again] -85: “One of you is saying that there was no mistake in the emission formula, while the other is. I'm not asking which I should believe . . I'm asking for a way to verify this” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369874#msg6369874) [those that have not been paying attention to the soap opera since the beginning do not understand anything at all] -86: “The quote I posted "close to Bitcoin's original curve" is from the original announcement here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.0 I think there was also some discussion on the thread about it being desirable to do that. At one point in that discussion, I suggested increasing the denominator by a factor of 4, which is what ended up being done, but I also suggested retaining the block target at 2 minutes, which was not done. The effect of making one change without the other is to double the emission rate from something close to bitcoin to something much faster (see chart a few pages back on this thread).” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369935#msg6369935) [smooth answers just a few minutes later] -92: “I'm happy the Bitmonero attracts so much interest. I'm not happy that some people want to destroy it. Here is a simple a clear statement about plans: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582670 We have two kind of stakeholders we have respect: miders and coin owners. Before any protocol changes we will ask miners for agreement. No changes without explicit agreement of miners is possible. We will never take away or discount any coins that are already emitted. This is the way we respect coin owners. All other issues can be discussed, proposed and voted for. I understand that there are other opinions. All decisions that aren't supported in this coin can be introduced in any new coin. It's ok to start a new fork. It's not ok to try to destroy an existsing network.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6370324#msg6370324) [TFT is kinda upset – he can see how the community is “somehow” taking over] -94: “Sounds like there's probably going to be another fork then. Sigh. I guess it will take a few tries to get this coin right. The problem with not adjusting existing coins is that it make this a premine/instamine. If the emission schedule is changed but not as a bug fix, then earlier miners got an unfair advantage over everyone else. Certainly there are coins with premines and instamines, but there's a huge stigma and such a coin will never achieve the level of success we see for this coin. This was carefully discussed during the team meeting, which was announced a day ahead of time, and everyone with any visible involvement with the coin, you included, was invited. It is unfortunate you couldn't make it to that meeting TFT.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6370411#msg6370411) [smooth is desperate due to TFT lack of interest in collaboration, and he publicly speaks about an scission for first time] -115: “Very rough website online, monero.cc (in case you asked, the domain name was voted on IRC, like the crypto name and its code). Webdesigner, webmaster, writers... wanted.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6374702#msg6374702) [Even though the lack of consensus and the obvious chaos, the community keeps going on: Monero already has his own site] -152: “Here's one idea on fixing the emissions without adjusting coin balances. We temporarily reduce the emission rate to half of the new target for as long as it takes for the total emission from 0 to match the new curve. Thus there will be a temporary period when mining is very slow, and during that period there was a premine. But once that period is compete, from the perspective of new adopters, there was no premine -- the total amount of coins emitted is exactly what the slow curve says it should be (and the average rate since genesis is almost the same as the rate at which they are mining, for the first year or so at least). This means the mining rewards will be very low for a while (if done now then roughly two weeks), and may not attract many new miners. However, I think there enough of us early adopters (and even some new adopters who are willing to make a temporary sacrifice) who want to see this coin succeed to carry it through this period. The sooner this is done the shorter the catch up period needs to be.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6378032#msg6378032) [smooth makes a proposal to solve the “emission curve bug” without changing users balances and without favoring the early miners] -182: “We have added a poll in the freenode IRC room "Poll #2: "Emission future of Monero, please vote!!" started by stickh3ad. Options: #1: "Keep emission like now"; #2: "Keep emission but change blocktime and final reward"; #3: "Keep emission but change blocktime"; #4: "Keep emission but change final reward"; #5: "Change emission"; #6: "Change emission and block time"; #7: "Change emission and block time and final reward" Right now everyone is voting for #4, including me.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6379518#msg6379518) [tacotime announces an ongoing votation on IRC] -184: “ change emission: need to bitshift old values on the network or double values after a certain block. controversial. not sure if necessary. can be difficult to implement. keep emission: straightforward, we don't keep change emission or block time. change final reward is simple. if (blockSubsidy < finalSubsidy) return finalSubsidy; else return blockSubsidy;” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6379562#msg6379562) -188: “Yeah, well. We need to change the front page to reflect this if we can all agree on it. We should post the emissions curve and the height and value that subsidy will be locked in to. In my opinion this is the least disruptive thing we can do at the moment, and should ensure that the fork continues to be mineable and secure in about 8 years time without relying on fees to secure it (which I think you agree is a bad idea).” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6379871#msg6379871) [tacotime] -190: “I don't think the proposed reward curve is bad by any means. I do think it is bad to change the overall intent of a coin's structure and being close to bitcoins reward curve was a bit part of the intent of this coin. It was launched in response to the observation that bytecoin was 80% mined in less than two years (too fast) and also that it was ninja premined, with a stated goal that the new coin have a reward curve close to bitcoin. At this point I'm pretty much willing to throw in the towel on this launch:
No web site
Botched reward curve (at least botched relative to stated intent)
No pool (and people who are enthusiastically trying to mine having trouble getting any blocks; some of them have probably given up and moved on).
No effective team behind it at launch
No Mac binaries (I don't think this is all that big a deal, but its another nail)
I thought this could be fixed but with all the confusion and lack of clear direction or any consistent vision, now I'm not so sure. I also believe that merged mining is basically a disaster for this coin, and is probably being quietly promoted by the ninjas holding 80% of bytecoin, because they know it keeps their coin from being left behind, and by virtue of first mover advantage, probably relegates any successors to effective irrelevance (like namecoin, etc.). We can do better. It's probably time to just do better.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6380065#msg6380065) [smooth is disappointed] -191: “The website does exist now, it's just not particularly informative yet. :) But, I agree that thankful_for_today has severely mislead everyone by stating the emission was "close to Bitcoin's" (if he's denying that /2 rather than /4 emission schedule was unintentional, as he seems to be). I'm also against BCN merge mining. It works against the goal of overtaking BCN and if that's not a goal, I don't know what we're even doing here. I'll dedicate my meagre mining to voting against that. That said, you yourself have previously outlined why relaunches and further clones fail. I'd rather stick with this one and fix it.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6380235#msg6380235) [eizh tries to keep smooth on board] -196: “BCN is still growing as well. It is up to 1.2 million now. If merged mining happens, (almost) everyone will just mine both. The difficulty on this coin will jump up to match BCN (in fact both will likely go higher since the hash rate will be combined) and again it is an instamine situation. (Those here the first week get the benefit of easy non-merged mining, everyone else does not.) Comments were made on this thread about this not being yet another pump-and-dump alt. I think that could have been the case, but sadly, I don't really believe that it is.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6380778#msg6380778) -198: “There's no point in fragmenting talent. If you don't think merge mining is a good idea, I'd prefer we just not add it to the code. Bitcoin had no web site or GUI either initially. Bitcoin-QT was the third Bitcoin client. If people want a pool, they can make one. There's no point in centralizing the network when it's just began, though. Surely you must feel this way.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6381866#msg6381866) [tacotime also wants smooth on board] -201: “My personal opinion is that I will abandon the fork if merge mining is added. And then we can discuss a new fork. Until then I don't think Monero will be taken over by another fork.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6381970#msg6381970) [tacotime opens the season: if merged mining is implemented, he will leave the ship] -203: “Ditto on this. If the intention wasn't to provide a clearweb launched alternative to BCN, then I don't see a reason for this fork to exist. BCN is competition and miners should make a choice.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6382097#msg6382097) [eizh supports tacotime] -204: “+1 Even at the expense of how much I already "invested" in this coin.” (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6382177#msg6382177) [NoodleDoodle is also against merged mining] This is basically everything worth reading in this thread. This thread was created in the wrong category, and its short life of about 2 days was pretty interesting. Merged mining was rejected and it ended up with the inactivity of TFT for +7 days and the creation of a new github repo the 30th of April. It is only 12 days since launch and a decentralized team is being built. Basically the community had forked (but not the chain) and it was evolving and moving forward to its still unclear future. These are the main takeaways of this thread:
The legitimacy of the "leaders" of the community is proven when they proposed and supported the idea of halving the balances for the greater good to solve the emission curve issue without any possible instamine accusation. Also their long-term goals and values rejecting merged-mining with a "primined scam"
It is decided that, as for now, it is “too late” to change the emission curve, and finally monero will mint 50% of its coin in ~1.3 years (bitcoin did it after 3.66 years) and 86% of its coins in 4 years (bitcoin does it in ~11 years) (was also voted here) (see also this chart)
It is decided that a “minimum subsidy” or “tail emission” to incentivize miners “forever” and avoid scaling fees will be added (it will be finally added to the code march 2015)
Merged mining is plainly rejected by the future “core team” and soon rejected by "everyone". This will trigger TFT inactivity.
The future “core team” is somehow being formed in a decentralized way: tacotime, eizh, NoodleDoodle, smooth and many others
And the most important. All this (and what is coming soon) is a proof of the decentralization of Monero. Probably comparable to Bitcoin first days. This is not a company building a for-profit project (even if on the paper it is not for-profit), this a group of disconnected individuals sharing a goal and working together to reach it. Soon will be following a final part where i'll collect the bitcointalk logs in the current official announcement threads. There you'll be able to follow the decentralized first steps of develoment (open source pool, miner optimizations and exchanges, all surrounded by fud trolls, lots of excitmen and a rapidly growing collaborative community.
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